Catholics for Israel

Hello all,

I just read that the Pope Bxvi has arrived in Israel and though he is calling for peace between palestinians and Israel, which is a good thing of course, but it seems to me that he may be "hinting" for a 2 state solution as well?
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLB724651 ...

Since I can see there has been little activity in the last month i thought id pop in and say hello to everyone and hope your all well....

God Bless,

Rob

Hello,

WAS HE WRONG?????? If the Covenant between G-d and Israel is PERFECT, as David writes, then nothing can improve upon it, or replace it.

It is not perfect, at the very least in that it is not extended to all men. The Covenant in Christ brings brings a universal nature to what was ...

Jesus Christ Himself was the fulfillment of the promise.

I kind of understand that - but I guess i need it "dumbed" down for me if you catch my drift!

There were some things that Moses taught that obviously was changed . Is changing those teachings (were they law?) same as fullfilling as Yeshua ...

Hello All,

I have been thinking of how Yeshua came to not abolish the law but to fulllfill it. And how He says not one iota (dot?) will pass from the law etc..

The things I am having trouble with is some of Moses teaching -
One of them, an eye for an eye - but Yeshua changed that to turn the other ...

Like Zionist, Christian Zionists as the True Torah Jews say are in "denial of Divine providence over history" and in "rejection of G-d and Torah" or God and the Bible. Ariel you do realize that most Christian Zionists are supporting the state of Israel to bring about THE anti-christ because he has ...

Hello Haddasah,

Was there something in particular in past history that you are alluding to?

I think I might know where your coming from.
I personally feel sadness too that as Christians - how did we end up from Pentecost - to the middle ages, ie. Inquisition, Crusades etc. where Jews were ...

At the moment I do not have the internet at my home address so i can only check in when I am visiting family who are on the internet. also this time of the year is the summer holidays in Australia so not a good time to spend on a computer.

In regards to the Great Monarch I was reading a book ...

Yes many do believe in reincarnation nad it has become more popular in recent years in Judaism. .

Ive never heard of any form of Christianity teaching "reincarnation" so im a bit stumped as to how some forms of Judaism beleive in it since we both share the Old Testament?

I admit I havnt read the ...

never heard about this. What is the source? Such theories should be based on concrete facts to even begin talking about them.

It sounds like a total fabrication. Plus the Passover lamb was only kept for 4 days, not 14 (from 10 Nissan to 14 Nissan), Exodus 12:1-6

It was 4 days - sorry.
I was too ...

Athol wrote:It is Australia Day here (jan 26).

Hey - another Aussie! "Happy Australia Day"
Im in sunny Qld.... we celebrated typical Sam Kekovic style - lamb on a bbq!

Peace,
Rob

Hello All,

Please forgive me here as i am rushing this post, I have been told that Yeshua after he was arrested after the "agony in the garden" was actually held in prison and examined by Herod & Pontius for 14 days - as per the ritual that a spotless lamb is to be held for 14 days before the ...

I am sorry to inform you Athol that you are 100% wrong. The infallible Council of Florence has spoken and the First Vatican Council defined the duty of Catholics to obey ALL Catholic teaching.



Please excuse my ignorance here....Ive read this thread a few times now & probably missing something ...

The research of world-recognized authorities in this area implies that Ribi Yehoshua was a Pharisee (a Torah-practising Jewish group - who according to 4Q MMT practised both written and oral Torah). As the earliest church historians, most eminent modern university historians, our web site and our ...

[quote="Cherie"]The Greek name Jesus comes from the pagan god zeus.
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Hello Cherie,

Here is a link that may help with how "Yeshua" became "Jesus".
http://jesusisajew.org/YESHUA.php

Hope that may help - all we really can do is plant the seeds & pray and hope the Holy Spirit does the ...

Regarding Catholic eschatology, have you read this?
http://www.israelcatholic.com/content/view/73/91/lang,en/

cheers,
Ariel

I have now..... :wink:

I thoroughly enjoyed reading that - so much so that i have passed your link on to others. I have read numerous different versions on escatology ...

Just additional questions arising from yours. It would be interesting to hear perspectives on these things.

Yes - I am looking forward hopefully from some others perspective / input?

Rob

Hi Hadassah,

Thankyou for the reply and it did help alot!

Hi Rob,

So when you say that “Christians say they are following the true dating requirements, I am not sure what you (or they perhaps) mean.

What I was basically getting at is I've read from both sources - Christian and Jewish that the ...

Hello All,

Without starting a new topic, this kind of flows from the opening post....

Our Church is organising a pilgamage to the Holy Land in May 2009 and the organiser said the Pope may be there during that time too. If i can afford the pilgramage i am really looking forward to going.

I hope ...

Hello All,

OK I've heard & read from Jews / Messianic-Jews that Christians changed the passover (Easter) date, while Christians say that we are following the true dating requirements, and the Jews havn't allowed for leap years or whatever it is....

OK - Im quite ignorant on this and would like to ...

Hello Rob,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I suppose what I was thinking about as I read your original message was how to balance the concern voiced by both you and Ariel to refrain from offense with the actual practice of Catholics in the pews. I venture to say that there will always be a May ...

Rob and All,

.... I guess I would like to hear more about what you are thinking. How would you have the Church or general practice change?

Hi Hadassah,

I have been brought up Catholic, but once i started to read the Bible on my own, nearly found myself a Baptist, then after stumbling upon ...

Hello All,

Tried to edit the poll to include "all of the above" but cant seem to find an edit option on the poll itself. Is that "locked" in now so i can't edit it?
Maybe the moderators can do it for me

Peace,
Rob

Hello Ariel,

the poll is a good one; the only problem is, it needs a 'all of the above' answer, or at least the possibility of selecting multiple options!

Thanks - this is my first poll I have ever posted - so I probably didnt think it through thoroughly enough - but yes your right - I will put ...

Hello All,

On the subtopic of what divides Catholics and Messianic-Jews, my experience is that when they see veneration of Mary, especially in processions in Europe on feast days - this is seen as highly idolatory, probably a major stumbling block especially if she is viewed as "Queen of Heaven ...

Hello all,

Just thought my first post should be an intro of myself.

Im a Catholic, in union with the Pope & Magisterium, and have a keen interest on Catholic apologetics, though i don't actually really do too much "online debating", more just learning & reading and it helps me with defending my ...