Eucharist-symbol or reality
Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:24 am
Dear All,
After some my comments on apostolic succession i would like to add some new thoughts about Eucharist. Recently i had a conversation with one friend-Catholic priest and i asked his opinion about the Eucharist. I told him that i have a problem and try my best to believe that when i make the Eucharist it is really His real body and flesh. His answer and following reflectings gave me a revelation with which i live today. This revelation is linked to Passover. Let us think why God gave a commendment for people of Israel to remember Exodus and to eat the lam on Passover! It is obvios that he wanted them to "experiance again" each year the entire Exodus events starting with the God's rath on Egypt, the Angle of death and the blood of lam, the hurry in getting out in the night, the opening of the Sea etc....The most important fact is that he wanted them to be THERE again for ALL generations and to experiance the FREEDOM from Egypt through the Blood of Lam and the miracles and demonstration of God's power. Now the interesting question is whether once they were eating the lam each year- was it a reality or a symbol of what happened hundreds of years ago. Where is the dividing line between the reality and symbol? It was both the symbol but under this symbol God was giving them the full reality of what has happened hundreds of years ago
SO i believe this is a mystery of Eucharist. Today for some reason some my brothers from Catholic chuch insist that if i dont believe that this is a REAL presence of Chrise in this Eucharist then my faith is not correct. However i believe that in Eucharist we have both reality and symbol. What we take is the piece of Matza and Wine however after the prayer and blessing what we eat is the Messiah and all what he did to us. We receive Him in his death and resurrection! We receive what was the whole Salavation of Israel-freedom from Egypt ( death of Messiah) and crossing the sea ( resurrection of Messiah)
There is no way we could im this Earth understand where is the line between the symbol and reality. I would say this way - it is not about the Scholastic perception. No way. It is about mystery and it mystery you are not able to differentiate between symbol and reality
Therefore all claims about how to understand and perceive Eucharist are obsolete. It is nonsense to say that if some christians view it only as symbol so they have a dilusion and they dont really receive the life of Messiah through bread and blood. All those childeren of God who approach the Eucharist with faith in hearts they experiance what i have said. Most of them most of time dont sense it with our 5 organs of sensors however this fact doesnt diminish the blessings they receive
Blessings
ELi
After some my comments on apostolic succession i would like to add some new thoughts about Eucharist. Recently i had a conversation with one friend-Catholic priest and i asked his opinion about the Eucharist. I told him that i have a problem and try my best to believe that when i make the Eucharist it is really His real body and flesh. His answer and following reflectings gave me a revelation with which i live today. This revelation is linked to Passover. Let us think why God gave a commendment for people of Israel to remember Exodus and to eat the lam on Passover! It is obvios that he wanted them to "experiance again" each year the entire Exodus events starting with the God's rath on Egypt, the Angle of death and the blood of lam, the hurry in getting out in the night, the opening of the Sea etc....The most important fact is that he wanted them to be THERE again for ALL generations and to experiance the FREEDOM from Egypt through the Blood of Lam and the miracles and demonstration of God's power. Now the interesting question is whether once they were eating the lam each year- was it a reality or a symbol of what happened hundreds of years ago. Where is the dividing line between the reality and symbol? It was both the symbol but under this symbol God was giving them the full reality of what has happened hundreds of years ago
SO i believe this is a mystery of Eucharist. Today for some reason some my brothers from Catholic chuch insist that if i dont believe that this is a REAL presence of Chrise in this Eucharist then my faith is not correct. However i believe that in Eucharist we have both reality and symbol. What we take is the piece of Matza and Wine however after the prayer and blessing what we eat is the Messiah and all what he did to us. We receive Him in his death and resurrection! We receive what was the whole Salavation of Israel-freedom from Egypt ( death of Messiah) and crossing the sea ( resurrection of Messiah)
There is no way we could im this Earth understand where is the line between the symbol and reality. I would say this way - it is not about the Scholastic perception. No way. It is about mystery and it mystery you are not able to differentiate between symbol and reality
Therefore all claims about how to understand and perceive Eucharist are obsolete. It is nonsense to say that if some christians view it only as symbol so they have a dilusion and they dont really receive the life of Messiah through bread and blood. All those childeren of God who approach the Eucharist with faith in hearts they experiance what i have said. Most of them most of time dont sense it with our 5 organs of sensors however this fact doesnt diminish the blessings they receive
Blessings
ELi