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by Athol
Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:10 pm
Forum: Messianic Jews, Hebrew Catholics and Catholic Jews
Topic: Making Aliyah
Replies: 5
Views: 8598

Actually I read recently that if your father was Jewish but not your mother then you can make aliya even if you are a Messianic or christian- it is only those who have a Jewish mother who have become a Messianic or christian that can't come to Israel under the Law of Return.
by Athol
Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:54 am
Forum: Messianic Jews, Hebrew Catholics and Catholic Jews
Topic: Statues & Veneration of Mary
Replies: 35
Views: 32361

I think the biggest obstacle is their Gentile evangelical converters who indoctrinate them with their anti-Catholic ideas. Many Jews who became Messianic don't seem to be as anti-Catholic as their evangelical converters. I have always found most Jewish people quite positive towards Mother Mary even ...
by Athol
Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:36 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Hello All - Im new here....
Replies: 2
Views: 9134

Welcome Rob. I hope all is going well with you.
by Athol
Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:01 pm
Forum: The Church in the Holy Land
Topic: Recent Letter
Replies: 13
Views: 67262

It alll sounds so reasonable and if it was possible for a Palestinian state to exist alongside an Israeli state I would say give it a go. However that is never going to happen and I don't think it is really part of God's long term plan for the Holy Land. Call me an extremist Zionist possums but comp...
by Athol
Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:55 pm
Forum: Jesus and the Jewish People
Topic: Jewish Visions
Replies: 4
Views: 13654

Yes I am down under. John also had a vision of the glorified and resurrected Messiah Jesus at the beginning of the Book of Revelation which is very similiar to the vision of the Son of Man in Daniel. Yes many Jews have had visions of the Messiah and of Jesus through the ages. Some Rabbis had encount...
by Athol
Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:28 pm
Forum: Torah and Gospel
Topic: Are passover Seders sinful
Replies: 24
Views: 25519

Dear Hadassah, It is even more than when a protestant becomes a Catholic- a Jew not only loses his religious friends but he in a sense loses his culture and then is forced to become part of another culture which can be wonderful but never fulfills that part of us that is jewish and that longs for je...
by Athol
Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:09 am
Forum: Torah and Gospel
Topic: Are passover Seders sinful
Replies: 24
Views: 25519

Dear Hadassah, I guess i may have had another knee jerk reaction to your comments. How can I expect you to understand if you have never been in this situation- it is probably unfair of me. i don't know if you are aware but very many hebrew Catholics have never told their family or Jewish friends abo...
by Athol
Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:58 am
Forum: Torah and Gospel
Topic: Are passover Seders sinful
Replies: 24
Views: 25519

Dear Haddasah, it is not primarily what you asked but a series of frustrations about the attitudes of certain Catholics. I am afraid I cannot be passionless in my discussion of this topic. Do you really think that it is right for a husband and wife to destroy their marriage and to scar their childre...
by Athol
Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:45 am
Forum: Torah and Gospel
Topic: Are passover Seders sinful
Replies: 24
Views: 25519

No it is not a speculative notion it is consistently taught by many of the Fathers as well as many other saints such as Thomas Aquinas and also found in the mystics such as St matilda and Blessed Anne emmerich among others. It is also discussed as a sign of the Second Coming by most Catholic authori...
by Athol
Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:29 pm
Forum: Torah and Gospel
Topic: Are passover Seders sinful
Replies: 24
Views: 25519

Actually Catholic tradition teaches that the real Elijah and Enoch will come back before the Second Coming so the place of Elijah in the Seder is still appropriate. I personally do not celebrate christianised Seders but the traditional Seder but as a Catholic Jew see the deep Messianic, Marian and E...
by Athol
Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:45 pm
Forum: Torah and Gospel
Topic: Are passover Seders sinful
Replies: 24
Views: 25519

Unfortunately there are many anti-jewish Catholics who are pushing their agendas especially certain Catholic apologists such as Robert Sugenis. As for the poll i posted it in response to those traditionalists who are saying that it is a mortal sin for Catholics to participate in Passover Seders. You...
by Athol
Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:44 am
Forum: Torah and Gospel
Topic: Are passover Seders sinful
Replies: 24
Views: 25519

Yes you are right. They tend to get sucked into the arguments of the anti-Jewish segments and think this is the teaching of the church when it isnt.

Cheers Athol
by Athol
Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:12 pm
Forum: Torah and Gospel
Topic: Mosaic Judaism vs. Rabbinic Judaism
Replies: 21
Views: 21061

On the last point I found an interesting quote from Father Raniero Cantalamessa the Pope's preacher. "..it is certain that the rejoining of Israel with the Church will involve a rearrangement in the Church; it will mean a conversion on both sides". (from the Mystery of Christmas)
by Athol
Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:57 pm
Forum: Torah and Gospel
Topic: Mosaic Judaism vs. Rabbinic Judaism
Replies: 21
Views: 21061

Obviously where authority clashes with authority one must follow the higher authority. For example when a priest or group of priests teach contrary to the Bishop one must follow the Bishop or when a bishop or group of bishops teach contrary to the Pope we follow the Pope. Judaism itself teaches that...