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by Athol
Fri May 18, 2012 7:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

Dear Truthseeker, I think I will go with David Palm and Michael Forrest rather than you. They are thinking with the mind of the Church as it has been developing a deeper understanding of the Jews in God's plan of salvation. That the only person you quoted lived such a long time ago says alot. Of cou...
by Athol
Fri May 18, 2012 1:09 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

Thanks Chaim what a nice website on Jewish traditions around the world.

Both Israel and the Catholic Church are under attack at the moment from many quarters so it is good that we become closer.

cheers Br. Gilbert (Athol)
by Athol
Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:02 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

Just found this excellent article on this topic on the National Catholic Register website.

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/on ... e-and-god/

cheers Athol
by Athol
Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:47 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

Dear Truth seeker keep seeking the Truth. St Peter warns us that St Paul is not easy to understand and that many even in his time got him wrong. To read him without understanding that he is a Jewish rabbi and a Jewish mystic has caused great misunderstandings. Paul thinks in Jewish ways and categori...
by Athol
Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:22 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

Well that's where I think we disagree. God has never given up hope for Israel and the Catholic Church has never given up hope for Israel trusting in God's faithfulness to his covenants even if man is not. This is why the church has always taught that the Jewish people (who didn't accept Jesus at his...
by Athol
Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:04 pm
Forum: Jewish faith & life
Topic: Reincarnation in Judaism
Replies: 5
Views: 31003

Re: Reincarnation in Judaism

Today among many Breslovers and other Haredi Jews we read in their writings about reincarnation (gilgulim). This is worrying as it suits a generation influenced by the reincarnation teachings of Eastern religions and of new Age and occult groups. As a devoted disciple and descendant of Rebbe Nachman...
by Athol
Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:31 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

“the period marked by the promise made to Abraham and by the Law mediated by Moses has now reached its climax, in the sense that Christ fulfils the divine promise and supersedes the old law.” Redemptoris Mater, ft. 2. Firstly this is only a footnote in Redemptoris Mater not part of the main text. As...
by Athol
Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:59 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

i also wonder why you don't use the Douay -Rheims Bible for your quotation of Hebrews 8:13 "Now in saying a new, he hath made the former old. And that which decayeth and groweth old is near its end". Other translations that use the word Covenant and obsolete are an interpretation of this verse not a...
by Athol
Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:40 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

According to St Thomas Aquinas it would also seem that the use of the terms Old Law and New Law are referring to St Paul's references to those who live at the level of the letter of the law and those who live at the level of the spirit of the law and is not really directly referring to the Old and N...
by Athol
Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:31 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

Once again you are reading these statements according to a theological opinion that carries little value today in the light of the development of doctrine in which the Holy Spirit is leading the Church into a deeper penetration of the Mystery of Israel. Once again you quote a document that mentions ...
by Athol
Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:09 am
Forum: Jewish faith & life
Topic: Reincarnation in Judaism
Replies: 5
Views: 31003

Re: Reincarnation in Judaism

Rav Avraham Brandwein writes: "There is another kind of gilgul that can take place while a person is still alive. The Ari calls this form of reincarnation, Ibur. It is usually thought that gilgul takes place after a person passes from this world, after the death of the body, at which time or soon af...
by Athol
Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:43 am
Forum: Jewish faith & life
Topic: Reincarnation in Judaism
Replies: 5
Views: 31003

Re: Reincarnation in Judaism

One of the greatest and most secret and hidden concepts in Jewish Mysticism is the concepts of the World of Galgalim (Rounds/spheres). Perverted concepts of Gilgul which in English is translated as reincarnation has come to dominate in certain branches of Judaism eventhough Jewish authorities such a...
by Athol
Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

The term Old Covenant almost always refers to the Mosaic Covenant not the Abrahamic Covenant. That the Pope says that the Abrahamic covenant is irrevocable in one place doesn't mean that he is thus saying that the Mosaic Covenant or Old Covenant (which is the Covenant of Sinai) is thus revocable. No...
by Athol
Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:23 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

This comment about the Old covenant never being revoked was put in the Catechism to confirm that the statement of JPII on this topic was not just his personal opinion but the authentic teaching of the Church's magisterium. The details of what this means is open to theological discussion and speculat...
by Athol
Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:23 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion
Replies: 29
Views: 95443

Re: Covenant Confusion

i should also think that the statement in the American Catechism could also be wrongly read that the Torah was only valid for the jews and not the Gentiles. This would be a wrong inference as the Torah is eternally valid for both Jew and Gentile. They relate to it differently as the Gentiles have be...